June 18th or 19th Forcible Entry- Glenwood Springs CO

Posted 05/25/2015 by IRONSandLADDERS
Categories: Uncategorized

NOW OPEN – Two days of forcible entry classes to choose from up in Glenwood Springs Colorado. Only one more Forcible Entry class after this that will be open to everyone this year. Take a trip to an amazing area of our State and come break some doors.

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Last Minute Openings – May 13th- Ladders Class

Posted 05/04/2015 by IRONSandLADDERS
Categories: 5. Ladder Work

We just decided to open a limited amount of spots (around 10 people) for our Ladders Class at Fort Carson on May 13th. This will be from 9 till 5 at Fort Carsons Training Center. Please email us at ironsandladders@hotmail.com to reserve a spot. Price is 75.00 a person. Thanks and sorry for the late notice.

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Open Enrollment Forcible Entry Class (Now Open)

Posted 04/30/2015 by IRONSandLADDERS
Categories: 1. Forcible Entry

Announcing open spots on May 22nd and May 23rd  for our Hands On Forcible Entry Class. This class is being hosted by the Platteville Gilcrest Fire District. They have opened half of the spots on each day. This will be the last open class in Northern Colorado for 2015. Check out the flyer for more details.

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Halligan By The Numbers

Posted 04/23/2015 by IRONSandLADDERS
Categories: 1. Forcible Entry

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Editor Note: The mechanical advantage of a Halligan has been a recent topic on some training forums. A friend of mine decided to sit down and put on paper what many of us explain when teaching the use of the Halligan. Before you read this I would like to start by saying this is an article for firefighters that like to keep working towards a better understanding of what they are doing and why they are doing it. Does a firefighter need to know the complete break down of mathematics regarding the leverage of the Halligan to force a door correctly? No, not at all. But a firefighter that is instructing others on how to use this tool should have a very solid grasp of how to use the different fulcrums of the tool and should be able to explain where you have more or less leverage depending on how you use it. This article allows you to take a detailed look at what the numbers can look like. This is for those of you that pay attention to the details but still understand the practical application of how this translates to actually using the tool. Understanding leverage and fulcrums is a big part of our job, during the overhaul portion of a fire ground it is very easy to see who has good understanding of tools and their leverage points, hopefully this helps bring a little further understanding to this topic. 

 Halligan By The Numbers
By Ben Shultz 

Let me start off saying that I do not hold a degree in applied mathematics, trigonometry or physics.  I do however like putting numbers and statistics to things that I do.  It’s simply what works for me and helps to solidify concepts in my mind.  So, with that said, here is a short document about the mechanical advantage that we create with the halligan.  There are some folks out there that would tell me how I forgot to factor in Pi, a cosign, theta, etc. and therefore my math isn’t perfect.  They’d be correct.  But, when we keep things simple and look at the halligan as either a class I or II lever, we can still come up with some decent numbers to show the force it can create in different applications.

Quick overview of levers…they are a simple machine.  They fall into three classes – I, II, or III.  In the case of the halligan, it operates in the class I and II mode.  Below you will see an example of a class I lever and how mechanical advantage (MA) is calculated.  Example: a seesaw.

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So, you can see in either mode, we need to know the distance from the force (the firefighter) to the fulcrum, and we need to know the distance from the load (the door) to the fulcrum.  These numbers allow us to arrive at our MA.

So, here’s what we know about the halligan before we even apply it to a door…

The halligan is 30” in overall length.

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The forks are 6” and the crotch is 5”.

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The adze is 6” in length.

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The adze is 2” wide.

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The pick is 6” in length.

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The adze/ pick triangle is 5” tall.

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With those numbers in mind we have most of what we need to determine how much MA we create in different positions on the door, as you will see below.

Outward Swing Doors (Towards you)

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It is often advantageous to gap, crush, tunnel, etc. an outward swinging door to assist in setting the adze.  By placing the halligan in such a fashion (disregard hand position and how low on the door the halligan is placed) and moving the bar up and down we are using 30” of the bar from the fulcrum and the door is being impacted by the edge of the adze, which is 2” from the fulcrum.  Therefore, we create a 15:1 MA (a lot of force!)

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Once the door is gapped, we can either drive the adze in and set it or we can drive the forks in.  I’ve heard numerous arguments for and against both methods, and that is a whole topic in itself, so for now I’ll just stick with the MA examples of each.Screen Shot 2015-04-23 at 5.31.34 PM

(Door removed for picture purposes)

In this fashion, we see the adze driven to its “mark” that lets us know we’ve driven far enough to clear the jamb and catch the door effectively.  This puts 4” of adze past the outside edge of the door frame.  That frame edge is our fulcrum.  You’ll notice that where the jamb or rabbit is located is at the 2” mark, representing where the inside door edge would be located (the load).  This equals 2” of distance from the load to the fulcrum.  Once again the distance from the force to the fulcrum is 30”, giving us a 15:1 MA.

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Here we have placed the forks for the outward swinging door.  Once again, there could be a entire discussion devoted to bevel away or towards a door in forcible entry, but we’re just sticking to MA for now.  Note that the fulcrum (outside edge of door frame) is created at about the 3.5” mark.  The jamb is located at the 1.5” mark.  Once again our load to fulcrum distance is 2”.  However, in the forks configuration, we lose a bit of MA, because our force to fulcrum distance is reduced by the length of fork  we drive past the fulcrum, in this case that is 3.5”.  Therefore we end up with 30” bar minus 3.5” for a force to fulcrum length of 26.5”.  So our MA is 26.5 / 2, which equals 13.25:1, still significant, but reduced from the adze application.  What’s important to note is that if we had driven the forks to the crotch mark, as is often taught, we reduce our MA to 25/2, or 12.5:1.  I know the concept of driving the forks to the crotch is to assure that you have cleared the jamb and have enough fork to grab the door, but it is obvious from this picture that those concerns are addressed with a shallower drive.  It’s something to think about.

Inward Swinging Doors (Away from you)

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Here we see the set up to initially gap (and possibly force) the inward swinging door.  The halligan is used in the same fashion as gapping the outward swinging door, just in a different position.  By pushing down on the bar and forks we create a fulcrum on the edge of the 2” wide adze, therefore, the math doesn’t change and we have a 15:1 MA.  It’s important to realize that pulling up in this configuration (right side opening door)  greatly decreases your MA due to the length of the pick.

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Up until now, the halligan has been used in the class I lever mode.  Here we find it used in the class II mode.  In this set up, we have driven the forks to the crotch mark.  This creates our fulcrum at the edge of the door frame at the 3” mark and puts our load at the jamb at the 5” mark, once again, giving us a load to fulcrum length of 2”.  Because we have driven our forks 3” past our door frame edge (fulcrum), we have also reduced our force to fulcrum length by 3”, resulting in a D(f) of 27”.  Therefore our MA is 27 / 2, or 13.5:1.  Once again, I know it is often taught to drive to the crotch, but remember, the deeper we drive the forks, the less MA we have available to us.

I’m sure with the 90 degree bend in a halligan bar and the curve of the forks that there are some really fancy equations to truly figure out the exact MAs for the halligan.  So, if you’re not entirely thrilled with the numbers as fact, consider them arbitrary values and simply think of the different configurations as “more” or “less” MA.  The key is to have a good grasp on the capabilities of the tool.  And don’t forget, in order to achieve the greatest mechanical advantage you have to maximize the force to fulcrum distance, meaning you must pull or push at the end of the halligan.  The closer you move to the door, the less MA you realize.  With that said, remember that you can increase your force to fulcrum distance, therefore increasing your MA, by introducing a roof hook into the mix or marrying up another halligan at the forks.  Finally, like most things in life, there is a trade-off involved.  The greater your MA, the shorter your “throw” when forcing a door and vice versa.

(Editor Conclusion)

I first saw this “ballpark mechanical advantage explanation” from Josh Materi while he was explaining Halligan use in a hands on forcible entry drill (video below). Josh does a good job explaining a couple of other ways we commonly use the tool that is not included in the numbers above. What you have to keep in mind is as you force a door and material starts moving, fulcrums change and so does the point of the tool that is prying on the door. This is what makes this rough math and a constantly changing mechanical advantage but you get the picture.  Josh breaks down the adze end of the tool into three major categories (the 2″ adze, the 6″ adze and the pike/adze combo) This is the easiest way I have found to keep it simple when instructing which part means what when we put it to work on a door. Thanks a ton to Ben Shultz for writing this article and Josh Materi for permission to use his video clip. -Royal

I Am Exhausted..

Posted 03/30/2015 by IRONSandLADDERS
Categories: Uncategorized

I’m Exhausted…anyone else?

There is a reason you don’t see the Fresno video up on our page right now. I knew it would be widespread and easy to find for anyone looking to learn from it. What I knew was going to be even more common was the flood of “brothers” that would watch it and just let the expert comments rain on all forms of public media about each and every detail that they thought this Captain did wrong in the video clip.

I don’t have the energy or the interest to spend all day trying to argue with someone that has a perspective so flawed and an ego so big that they feel they must pull up the old keyboard and fire away on Facebook/internet instead of simply sitting back and reflecting on how easy this job could sneak up and bite you.

I watched the video several times and had an immediate knot in my stomach. I watched once completely horrified that one of our own would have to go through that including all of the other members on scene. I watched several more times trying to learn and understand what went wrong. I took the time to sit back and think about the whole situation and learn a little bit about Captain Dern and the Fresno Fire Dept. Then IN PRIVATE with trusted mentors, friends and crew members we sat and talked about everything and did our absolute best to learn and do Captain Dern some justice. From what I have read about Capt Dern it seems like he would want each and every one of us to learn from his situation and try our best to prevent it from happening to ourselves. He sounds like a leader, mentor and student of the job. Friends don’t describe you that way unless it’s true.

I will tell you what we didn’t do. We didn’t discuss this on Facebook, we didn’t blindly kick around assumptions, and we certainly didn’t compromise respect and brotherhood because “thats how we all get better”

I have sat and watched different so called firefighters today broadly claim how poor fresno tactics are and in the same line state they have never done roof work in their 5 years on the job. I have watched others say “not to monday morning quarterback” but instead I will beat the piss out of everything in this video.

On the positive side many productive discussions have gone on about tactics, roofs, ventilation, etc, with experienced and trusted firefighters leading the discussion. They managed to do it without even coming close to disrespecting Fresno or Capt Dern. All in the name of truly learning without assuming. Funny how that works huh?

I don’t have any specific route I am going with this post other than to say please take a step back and think for just a few minutes. If you are someone claiming to be on this job but can’t handle but to blast his actions all over the internet than you should really reevaluate yourself. At least do me a favor and the next time you want to wear your favorite FD shirt out to the bar and say cheers to brotherhood, take the time in your toast to let everyone know that the brotherhood ends at the door when the drinks aren’t flowing and there is no one around to see your sweet ass hero t-shirt.

Irons and Ladders trys to keep ourselves separated from politics, money grabbing, making a name for ourselves, Facebook Likes, or any other self serving characteristic that can infiltrate our profession. We appreciate the followers we do have and think your a good bunch of people that probably believe in the same mentality that we described above.

Support Capt Dern and Fresno Fire however you can. Learn from the video and his situation the best you can in private. Keep a bold line between yourself and the ones out there that just can’t hold up to that end of the deal.

Hang tough Captain, a lot of us out here support you and can actually understand how things go wrong.

-Royal

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Inaugural Hands On Ground Ladder Classes- Now Open

Posted 03/09/2015 by IRONSandLADDERS
Categories: 5. Ladder Work

These are the first two hands on ground ladder classes we are opening to firefighters from any department. We have been working on the development of this class for a while now and have finally started booking dates around Colorado. The flyer has the class description and registration information. Sign up soon at the lowest price we can offer for this class. Our host site is West Metro Fire in Lakewood CO.

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Drop Bar Weak Points

Posted 02/25/2015 by IRONSandLADDERS
Categories: 1. Forcible Entry

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Drop bars are by far the most common secondary security device we find on doors. Most setups take very little skill to build and they provide good protection from most criminals. This makes it appealing to most business owners, it can be done with their skill level and common materials. If the business owner wants to spend a little more money they can have a wide variety of styles fabricated. I have too many pictures of drop bars to count, the designs are endless and limited only to the citizens imagination. I have been fortunate enough to force drops bars that were very weak all the way up to some designs that were extremely strong. Over and over again we find that solid techniques with a good order of operations will defeat almost everything they can come up with. I know we have the extremes out there, that will cause a curveball no matter what type of tactic you use. However a large majority will always show there weak points with our standard tactics.

Here is how we approach a door that is showing signs of a drop bar.

A. Gap-Set-Force. So many doors are defeated before you move on to anything other than standard prying with the Irons. This is our Plan A and I like to try it every time. It either defeats it or gives you a real good feel of the door.

B. Add a 6′ Hook cheater bar (or a second firefighter on the Halligan) It is quick and it adds a ton of leverage. We have found it extremely effective and again saves you a ton of time when it works.

C. Defeat the bolts closest to the lock side of the door. Doesn’t matter if you use saws or you drive the bolts through. The key is to attack the bolts on the lock side. Then go back to prying.

D. Anytime you get enough spread in the door during this process you can insert this move. When the door spreads even a few inches. Stick the NY hook or the axe head into the gap and pound the bar up and out of the mounts.

E. Worst case scenario, you take out the last set of carriage bolts on the hinge side of the door. This is rare you have to go that far, but every once in a while if it is really holding on.

Look at the picture below and we will hit a couple of the weak points that reinforces the tactics we listed above and why we do them in that order.

Bar #1 – A very standard looking bolt pattern with standard drop bar mounts. All of that is secured with an old broom stick. Gap-Set-Force defeats this before you ever have to move past Plan A.

Bar #2 – Strong looking bolt pattern, strong mounts, 1/2 steel bar, all good materials used in this setup. The weak point is they made the bar go behind the 1/2 jamb instead of making it go behind the wall. With good prying you will defeat this bar because of the lack of bite it has on the metal frame. I’ll bet GSF defeats this, but worse case you add the 6′ hook and this is a goner.

Bar # 3 – Commercially made drop bar. Usually these tend to be weaker than most homemade versions. A couple weak points on this one. A single bolt is used for each mount, and again like the last bar it is only mounted behind the jamb instead of the frame. GSF should win again, but driving a single bolt if not will take this bar out without question.

Bar# 4- Standard bolt pattern followed up by a substantial 4×4 that goes all the way behind the wall. The mounts are also made of good steel and have a padlock to prevent us from sticking a tool in and knocking it out. It still has a weak point. Prying may not get you as far on this door, but you have two carriage bolts exposed on the outside that will easily disable the strength of this system.

Bar# 5- Three mounts showing from the outside instead of two, they are also reinforced with washers which can make driving them with a Halligan a little more difficult. However, this door reinforces why we always try GSF with our Irons first because I can’t tell you how many times we have seen them removed like you see here.

Bar#6 – Very impressive setup from the outside of the door. Large bolts that have been welded to a thick plate. This makes driving bolts through a poor choice and even makes saw work difficult. But if we stick to our plan we will expose the weak point during our prying operation. Don’t let the plate distract you. The mounts have a flaw, they are very short, so even though the bar is well made from steel the height and thickness of that mount has proven to us over and over again that we will usually defeat this with GSF and adding in our 6′ hook for leverage.

Long winded I know, but just a couple of thoughts of why we do what we do. We really go in depth on how to defeat drop bars in our hands on forcible entry classes. If you are not in our area we also have a large collection of YouTube videos defeating many of the drop bars that you see in this picture. Check it out.
Thanks
Ryan Royal
IRONS and LADDERS LLC.


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